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alaguy said...
Thanks JJ.
I think your comment about the size of these guys is one of the most cogent comments you have ever made here.I said when PJ came in that we should be able to get bigger and better Abacks than Navy and that (with a real passer at QB and bigger OLs) will make us unstoppable. well, 4 yrs in and we are getting SMALLER not bigger.Remember when we had dwyer and Ant at A back(225+)? there is not ONE even 210 lb+ Aback recruited in the last 3 yrs plus the AVERAGE size overall is small.Remember size makes a big difference in blocking esp in PASS blocking.I also haven't seen the extreme speed replacing the size at this poition either that you might expect. it might be that guys like Snoddy may get it done but so far without a strong OL we have to depend on jet speed or tackle-busting size to be be really sucessful. Not bad but not what I thought we could recruit into a top RUNNING offense.
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alaguy said...
Thanks JJ.
I think your comment about the size of these guys is one of the most cogent comments you have ever made here.I said when PJ came in that we should be able to get bigger and better Abacks than Navy and that (with a real passer at QB and bigger OLs) will make us unstoppable. well, 4 yrs in and we are getting SMALLER not bigger.Remember when we had dwyer and Ant at A back(225+)? there is not ONE even 210 lb+ Aback recruited in the last 3 yrs plus the AVERAGE size overall is small.Remember size makes a big difference in blocking esp in PASS blocking.I also haven't seen the extreme speed replacing the size at this poition either that you might expect. it might be that guys like Snoddy may get it done but so far without a strong OL we have to depend on jet speed or tackle-busting size to be be really sucessful. Not bad but not what I thought we could recruit into a top RUNNING offense.
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alaguy said...
Thanks JJ.
I think your comment about the size of these guys is one of the most cogent comments you have ever made here.I said when PJ came in that we should be able to get bigger and better Abacks than Navy and that (with a real passer at QB and bigger OLs) will make us unstoppable.
well, 4 yrs in and we are getting SMALLER not bigger.Remember when we had dwyer and Ant at A back(225+)? there is not ONE even 210 lb+ Aback recruited in the last 3 yrs plus the AVERAGE size overall is small.Remember size makes a big difference in blocking esp in PASS blocking.I also haven't seen the extreme speed replacing the size at this poition either that you might expect.
it might be that guys like Snoddy may get it done but so far without a strong OL we have to depend on jet speed or tackle-busting size to be be really sucessful.
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of all the things we can harp on about this O, A-back size is the least of the culprits in our offensive woes, IMO. i understand the sentiment of wanting bigger backs. but, we haven't exactly slow rolled on the O because of the size of our ABs. now the fumbles by ABs last year, yes. but, not their lack of size.
it would be wonderful to recruit 6'1", 220 ABs. but, a well executed/timed cut block from a 180 lbs AB can be just as effective as one thrown by someone at 220. and, remember, that's the style of blocks they're asked to execute in this offense on most plays.
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stonedwall said...
sounds good--so did i in my post.
you're harping on AB size/weight. i posted my opinion that the least of our offensive worries is AB size/weight. i specifically mentioned ABs five times in my post, but if i wasn't clear i'll state it again--AB size/weight was NOT a reason we lost last year and it won't be why our offense sputters this season. it has never been a primary reason this O didn't move the ball.
i'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest if/when we lose a game it won't be because orwin is 200 lbs or roddy is 5'10". i'm more worried about them holding onto the football, running decent routes, and making routine catches.
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stonedwall said...
sounds good--so did i in my post.
you're harping on AB size/weight. i posted my opinion that the least of our offensive worries is AB size/weight. i specifically mentioned ABs five times in my post, but if i wasn't clear i'll state it again--AB size/weight was NOT a reason we lost last year and it won't be why our offense sputters this season. it has never been a primary reason this O didn't move the ball.
i'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest if/when we lose a game it won't be because orwin is 200 lbs or roddy is 5'10". i'm more worried about them holding onto the football, running decent routes, and making routine catches.
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stonedwall said...
absolutely! our problem has been ABs with hands of stone who can't catch a cold. the "jump ball" style throws are to our WRs, for the most part. if our O is rolling as it can, passes to ABs should be a shock to the D and most likely result in a wide open AB who should be able to run for big yardage.
i understand the theory that we can run for 6-8 yards so why bother with a short passing game. but, i'd like to see us utilize a QUICK short passing game where the QB takes a one step drop with a laser pass to receivers. it takes the D by surprise and it also doesn't require our OL to fend off the defense and create a pocket. of course, this requires a QB with an arm and accuracy and the receivers HAVE to catch the damn ball! i'm keeping my fingers crossed we can get that true, dual threat QB in our backfield.
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alaguy said...
Thanks JJ.
I think your comment about the size of these guys is one of the most cogent comments you have ever made here.I said when PJ came in that we should be able to get bigger and better Abacks than Navy and that (with a real passer at QB and bigger OLs) will make us unstoppable. well, 4 yrs in and we are getting SMALLER not bigger.Remember when we had dwyer and Ant at A back(225+)? there is not ONE even 210 lb+ Aback recruited in the last 3 yrs plus the AVERAGE size overall is small.Remember size makes a big difference in blocking esp in PASS blocking.I also haven't seen the extreme speed replacing the size at this poition either that you might expect. it might be that guys like Snoddy may get it done but so far without a strong OL we have to depend on jet speed or tackle-busting size to be be really sucessful. Not bad but not what I thought we could recruit into a top RUNNING offense.
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