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excellent thoughts, jim! it amazed me that this was kept so hush-hush as well. that in and of itself gave me hope this wasn't going to be a bombshell. and, while no violation should be considered acceptable, the punishment we've incurred is more like a cherry bomb going off in our hand than an A-bomb.

IMHO, if this had been headlines last july, we'd have had an even more rocky season last year. but, i truly think the current team of players we're fielding won't let this phase them a bit. they're already total and complete underdogs. the pundits are expecting them to barely play .500 ball. well, now we'll get to see what we're made of--this is when heart and fortitude are truly tested.

some of you might think i'm nuts for saying this, but i bet deep down CPJ is readily embracing this moment as it gives him a chance to set a revival tone for this team. he likes his teams to "play scared" as he says. to me, that's healthy cause it makes you HUNGRY. what better way to prove you're a man than to be knocked down but get back up and dust yourself off? without loss of schollies and the ability to still play in postseason we'll have that chance.

champ, i've read the entirety of both the NCAA findings and the GT response from march. the NCAA's biggest beef seemed to be with the tech attorney and the compliance director. they felt the attorney was too lenient in his interviews and he also didn't follow proper procedure. the NCAA felt the compliance director didn't fully notify the ACC of all the pertinent info necessary to deem eligibility. they took umbrage with his approach. both of these individuals are no longer in our employ and measures have been taken to shore up the compliance department. this isn't to say D-rad shouldn't have talked to CPJ. that was wrong. but, that was only one action that ruffled the NCAA feathers. i feel the other two hurt us more.

D-rad and president peterson trusted in folks that didn't satisfy the expectations (right or wrong) of the NCAA. we're told this has been rectified. i trust them.

Champ, not sure exactly why that is except that Dan has done such an exceptional job at Georgia Tech and has built up a tremendous amount of goodwill.

I asked him afterward about his decision to speak with Coach Johnson and his perception was that it would be okay but in the end it was a mistake.

A man who has done a lot of great things and conducted himself with integrity made a decision that proved costly but in the end he stood up and took ownership of his actions. Time to move on.

Jim, please let us know about potential appeal in the coming days given the 15 day appeal notice deadline.

In my objective view, in this instance, the punishment seems much too drastic on such shaky evidence. From all the docs, seems like too many unknowns about the clothing. After the Gardner-Webb scare, who knew Booker would surface in this light. Hopefully, we hire a stud on the appeal and it bears better fruit.

Following stare decisis, the NCAA has to beat ohio st. pretty good. Else, it gives the folks looking to leave the NCAA (see pac-12 and big-10 commishes looking to pay athletes) a good argument that the NCAA is no longer relevant in today's world.

A neat thing I saw from watching today's presser is the closeness between Bud and Drad. I think this bodes well going forward for CPJ and the fball team. But I bet Bud told Drad behind doors there aint no more get out of jail free cards. Plus this makes DRad getting pruned in the short-term future unlikely.

BTW, I think the AJC's writers are way off base on their assessment. Some major media need to be calling the NCAA petty and small for this finding.

Screw Clemson.

have you read the GT response by chance? to me, i think the committee did a damn good job of showing just how shaky the evidence was.

the AJC's looking to rabble-rouse and give D-rad a swift kick in the nuts. neither schultz nor bradley are gonna miss their chance to doom and gloom it!

as for the punishment, the report also takes into account the basketball violations. i wonder how much of the probation is attributed to what happened there? wish there was a breakdown of the blame--for lack of a better term--the NCAA could provide. i mean, i know we're vacating the ACC champ. but, the four years and the fine?

also, the NCAA says they were informed by the NFL that booker was in the employ of an agency in ATL. well, where's the proof? the GT committee actually sought information on whether booker and hilliard were agents, or acting on the part of agents, and found none after talking with the parties involved! this whole damn thing snowballed because the NCAA said agents were involved. ummm, proof?

as they always say--it's not the crime, it's the cover up. in this case, i don't think it was as much a full-blown cover up as it was just bad judgement.

they pretty much said they were making an example of us in the first paragraph of their report. mission accomplished.

From what I understand an appeal is being polished up and will be presented prior to the July 28 deadline.

Good. These penalties are nuts. Plain and simple.
Title should not be vacated. Period. There is no PROOF to declare players ineligible retroactively.
Fine should be reduced. Probation reduced to 2 years.

THAT is what a minor incident deserves.

yeah, you can declare them. but, CB's point is there's no solid proof OUR players did anything wrong.

these violations were minor. we were warned no major violations before 2010. the NCAA report even says they were minor, but the committee was troubled and basically gonna make an example outta us due to what they deemed as lack of cooperation, manipulation, blah, blah, blah. they all but say that on the first page of their official report--that brought down the hammer.

It's a rhetorical question, but: Do we beat Clempsen in the ACCCG without Demaryius Thomas and Morgan Burnett?

Would have to agree with you there.

Just having Thomas on the field changes Clempsen's defense. Whether he scored or not his absence would have been significant. Now, hypothetically, what if we had sat him for the Georgia game, and Hill makes "that catch" Woo hoo!

And I wouldn't say we never stopped Clempsen. Every play that Spiller didn't take to the end zone was a "stop".