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Zach Laskey in Position

  • HelluvaMGTmjr said...

    Not true...look at Jacob Hester. 3* with offers from Texas, LSU and Miami. The 205 pound Caucasian RB doesn't exist at this level. Need to be at least 225+.

    Honestly, you can't tell a difference between this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvv1kvGeMuo

    and this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3gY41ndkvs

    Kid is a helluva athlete, but this is a whole other universe. Again, best of luck to the kid, I'm just having a cold hard look at him as if he were some kid off the street, no GT biases at all.

    Jacob Hester is being recruited as a pro style qb. If there is any bias there I would say white kids get better stars at that position. Zack is a running back and I promise you if he was a black running back he would be a three or four star.

    Bowdon Rambler

  • Jim Hart said...

    Once a freshman steps foot on campus, recruiting rankings and stars don't mean anything anymore. Zach has his opportunity.

    The offensive players we recruit aren't ranked in relation to our offense. For example, Vad Lee is rated 3 stars by the recruiting services but a couple of the national analysts I spoke with said Lee is a 5 star rated player for Paul Johnson's offense... as good as it gets.

    I'd say same thing with Zach. His recruiting rankings and ratings weren't assessed in relation to how he fits in Paul Johnson's offense. He's a very good fit for the B-back position with his package of skills.

    This!

    Like I said in a previous post, in our system, we don't need a Jonathon Dwyer. Would I like to have one? Heck yes! But the JD of 2008 was an elite level running back. Those type of RBs are few and far between, and there's maybe 2-3 running backs on the college level every year that are on that level.. CPJ was just lucky he was already on the roster when he was hired.

    Don't forget, Charles Perkins wasn't that highly regarded when he committed to us early in the recruiting game. After he exploded on the field his senior year, he became AJC's top back for his recruiting class even though he didn't even make their Pre-season Super 11.

    If you watch Zach's senior year film, and if you don't think he's a great fit for our offense, then I don't know what to tell you. I think Zach can come in early and actually play A-back (ala Ant in 2009) since his receiving skills are probably better than most of the A-backs we have now. He's much faster than I remember...he's got legit breakaway speed. It's not like he played in a lower level either.

    AllGT

  • Jim Hart said...

    Once a freshman steps foot on campus, recruiting rankings and stars don't mean anything anymore. Zach has his opportunity.

    The offensive players we recruit aren't ranked in relation to our offense. For example, Vad Lee is rated 3 stars by the recruiting services but a couple of the national analysts I spoke with said Lee is a 5 star rated player for Paul Johnson's offense... as good as it gets.

    I'd say same thing with Zach. His recruiting rankings and ratings weren't assessed in relation to how he fits in Paul Johnson's offense. He's a very good fit for the B-back position with his package of skills.

    Looking at his video I like the quick first step, low pad level and explosiveness. In the videos he looks like the quickest player on the field.

    With the players we have on campus right now I think we're in great shape at the B-back position for the next few years.

    he's a true north-south runner which is exactly what the TO needs....Perkins is a great back and the competition will be good. Laskey already can block and has great hands and I hear he's 205 lbs with a bench of 325. Not bad numbers for a RB that is just getting into Tech's program. Time will tell but if you look at the "big" picture he is a perfect fit for this offense.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by ATCTECH on 6/26/2011 at 3:50 PM

    ATCTECH

  • HelluvaMGTmjr said...

    Not true...look at Jacob Hester. 3* with offers from Texas, LSU and Miami. The 205 pound Caucasian RB doesn't exist at this level. Need to be at least 225+.

    Honestly, you can't tell a difference between this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvv1kvGeMuo

    and this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3gY41ndkvs

    Kid is a helluva athlete, but this is a whole other universe. Again, best of luck to the kid, I'm just having a cold hard look at him as if he were some kid off the street, no GT biases at all.

    He's already 210. He'll probably play around 225-230. If he keeps his speed, he'll be another good option for us.

    I think he's better than helluva's shady-colored glasses are letting him see. But, you do have to acknowledge that he wasn't our first choice at BB last year. That distinction goes to James Wilder, who was a 5* athlete and would've been hell on wheels in our offense at the BB position. But, Laskey does appear to be a very solid second choice, and like I said, could end up being a very good option for us with size, speed, athleticism, and fire.

    You know, it's quite possible that Zack Laskey's career could far surpass that of James Wilder in the long run. That's the craziness and maybe "fun" of college football and following recruiting. It's the human element.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Jonathan Rowe on 6/26/2011 at 9:25 PM

    Jonathan Rowe

  • ATCTECH said...

    you linked his junior year compared to Perkins senior..Below is Laskey's senior link. A year can make a lot of difference.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX6lU20g1vs&feature=youtube_gdata

    He looked a lot better in his Sr. year, thanks for posting. Not a lot of long plays from scrimmage, but still looked better. Who knows. He's ours now and I will be rooting for him all the way. Hopefully he can put on a little beef and keep some speed. I guess I am fighting the transition to this offense still. Dreaming of strong, fast TB (doesn't have to be a Dwyer). As long as we get a Perkins every couple years (assuming he is going to be as good as I hope...) and these types of BBs can contribute, we should be ok.

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by HelluvaMGTmjr on 6/26/2011 at 9:49 PM

    HelluvaMGTmjr

  • Bowdon Rambler said...

    Jacob Hester is being recruited as a pro style qb. If there is any bias there I would say white kids get better stars at that position. Zack is a running back and I promise you if he was a black running back he would be a three or four star.

    I was talking about LSU Jacob Hester. Blew my mind to see a white boy blowing up the SEC. Loved it. Great example of North-South runner making people hurt without taking it to the house a lot.

    HelluvaMGTmjr

  • Jonathan Rowe said...

    He's already 210. He'll probably play around 225-230. If he keeps his speed, he'll be another good option for us.

    I think he's better than helluva's shady-colored glasses are letting him see. But, you do have to acknowledge that he wasn't our first choice at BB last year. That distinction goes to James Wilder, who was a 5* athlete and would've been hell on wheels in our offense at the BB position. But, Laskey does appear to be a very solid second choice, and like I said, could end up being a very good option for us with size, speed, athleticism, and fire.

    You know, it's quite possible that Zack Laskey's career could far surpass that of James Wilder in the long run. That's the craziness and maybe "fun" of college football and following recruiting. It's the human element.

    Where are the "in betweens"? I would call Perkins an in between....definitely solid though.

    HelluvaMGTmjr

  • Jim Hart said...

    We didn't see Tevin healthy in the spring so that makes the assessment more difficult.

    I think Synjyn is more athletic and when the two QBs are playing behind a struggling offensive line he plays better. When the offensive line is blocking well then Tevin has the experience at this point in time to execute the offense better.

    I don't have the time to break down the numbers but if you average things out I think you will find that Tevin's numbers were very comparable to Nesbitt's last year.

    Well, for once we agree! People don't line TW because he isn't especially fast, tough, good at passing, etc...he just does what he does. SD looks the part. I guess you could say TW isn't as "sexy" at QB as SD. But he actually surprised me last year. I hope we can do better, but for now I have accepted TW as the QB for '11. If SD beats him out, great.

    HelluvaMGTmjr

  • HelluvaMGTmjr said...

    CPJ wants a JD. I know we can't have one more often than not, but there's got to be an in between...like Perkins. I will simply say we should not be competing with AF and Navy for our only BB recruit of the year. I hold GT to a higher level. I don't want GT to look like Navy. Remember, when we brought CPJ in everybody said, "imagine what he can do with BCS level talent!" and we saw the answer in his first 2 years but we haven't done much to replace that talent. Granted, GT is a hard place to recruit. We will see. But if you want to win championships, act like it!

    Good luck ZL, prove me wrong!

    Everybody seems to believe Perkins will be better than Anthony Allen, but not as good as Jon Dwyer. I don't know where Laskey falls in the mix, but the early voting would indicate he is not a Preston Lyons, and not a Richard Watson. Maybe he will become what we need. There is evidence to show that BB at Georgia Tech is a 1000 yard gainer, regardless of who you stick back there. Perhaps we will see that this year with Lyons.
    As far as looking like Navy, those pesky Midshipmen have won 19 games the past two seasons. And won a bowl game.

    Yukonwreck

  • Yukonwreck said...

    Everybody seems to believe Perkins will be better than Anthony Allen, but not as good as Jon Dwyer. I don't know where Laskey falls in the mix, but the early voting would indicate he is not a Preston Lyons, and not a Richard Watson. Maybe he will become what we need. There is evidence to show that BB at Georgia Tech is a 1000 yard gainer, regardless of who you stick back there. Perhaps we will see that this year with Lyons. As far as looking like Navy, those pesky Midshipmen have won 19 games the past two seasons. And won a bowl game.

    The TO needs a quick hitting straight up the field type runner that finds the seams, has good vision, sets up his blocks and runs hard between the tackles. It is precision that makes this work. Whoever it is needs to perfect the mesh with the QB to limit turnovers. An east /west type runner is not a viable option IMHO. First steps are very important as it could make the difference between a 3 yard gain or a 25 yard gain. Those who think a shake and bake type runner will do well in this offense will be disappointed. All these kids are athletic or they wouldn't be here. As I watched Zach's senior video, I believe I saw this kid playing Griffin outrunning 4 star defensive recruits to the end zone twice. He has break away speed and good size. A quick research of Starr's Mill offense shows that they have run the TO and a version of the spread the last 10 years. This should also mean that he can block and catch out of the backfield playing the BB position in high school. He put up very good numbers and played in the AAAA state championship game. Hell, look at all the blue chip recruits that couldn't carry their teams out of the first round of the playoffs. I would think that he is somewhat familiar with what and where he needs to be in TECH's offense. One issue will be the speed of the game at this level. Anyone who has ever played the game knows what I mean here. His bio says that he broke 11 school records most of which was held by Rueben Houston who also played at TECH. He had quite a few accolades and when I googled him, he also was the AAAA GACA offensive player of the year. If you look at numbers and compare apples to apples, I believe TECH signed one of the most versatile and a top 5 RB in the state of GA. CPJ has said in the past that he doesn't get into all the hype about stars and such with recruiting. He prefers to evaluate players himself and not go by what some desk jockey at SCOUT/RIVALS says. Maybe this is the reason CPJ liked Laskey. I personally think he will have a very good career at TECH........just my two cents.

    ATCTECH

  • ATCTECH said...

    you linked his junior year compared to Perkins senior..Below is Laskey's senior link. A year can make a lot of difference.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX6lU20g1vs&feature=youtube_gdata

    Thanks for the link. Good tough runner with speed and balance. The thing that struck me was the balance. Kids with strength and balance bounce off of arm tackles and keep going. Also, finally a highlight reel I didn't have to mute to watch!

    PS. I saw a little 3 point stance(3:15) and taking the pitch so he's ready for the option!!!

    dressedcheesesi


  • As far as looking like Navy, those pesky Midshipmen have won 19 games the past two seasons. And won a bowl game.

    Have you seen their schedule? How many ranked teams did they beat? (I don't know the answer to either).

    This post was edited by HelluvaMGTmjr on 6/27/2011 at 9:28 PM

    HelluvaMGTmjr

  • Just watched the highlight video. I know it's the cardinal rule not to just make a snap judgment off of a highlight video, but d%^&. This guy can flat out run. He's fast. He's not going to juke you out of your jockstrap, but he's got very good 1-cut running ability. He will make a guy miss. And, he just out-runs people. Not to mention good balance and strength. Reminds me of Dwyer, honestly. I think Dwyer was about his size too in high school, about 200-210 lbs.

    I'll tell you who else he reminds me of ... It's like having a 220lb Kelly Rhino at B-Back. And, that is PERFECT. Did you see him return punts? ... looked just like Rhino. Always made the first guy miss and then took off, afraid of nothing.

    Like I said, it's bad form for me to do this, but that highlight video got my blood pumping. Very excited about Laskey's potential.

    Jonathan Rowe

  • ATCTECH said...

    The TO needs a quick hitting straight up the field type runner that finds the seams, has good vision, sets up his blocks and runs hard between the tackles... An east /west type runner is not a viable option IMHO. First steps are very important as it could make the difference between a 3 yard gain or a 25 yard gain. Those who think a shake and bake type runner will do well in this offense will be disappointed.

    What offense doesn't need such a runner?! Actually, the only offense I can think of that can really use a great east-west runner is the TO! (AB). Who was the last shake and baker at GT? And a BB depends on vision much less than your typical RB (that's a knock on the position by the scouts). My only point is that BB isn't some special position that is that much different from what other schools look for in RBs. The only difference is that a little guy won't cut it. So, maybe CPJ is the only non-racist Div1A coach in the country and hopefully this kid turns into Toby Gerhart.

    Like I said, he Sr. year video was MUCH better, but he is still missing a gear compared to Perkins, who will hopefully be around for 4 years. I guess I've always had this complex about the BB position. I don't want it to turn into a slow rumbling white dude position. BORING! And it is going to disappoint the hell out of me if we are not able to recruit more Perkins and Allens. The reason CPJ ran the bigger, slower BBs at Navy was because that was all he could recruit there. I had hoped it would be different here. So far, mixed results, but I guess we won't really know for another few years.

    HelluvaMGTmjr

  • HelluvaMGTmjr said...

    What offense doesn't need such a runner?! Actually, the only offense I can think of that can really use a great east-west runner is the TO! (AB). Who was the last shake and baker at GT? And a BB depends on vision much less than your typical RB (that's a knock on the position by the scouts). My only point is that BB isn't some special position that is that much different from what other schools look for in RBs. The only difference is that a little guy won't cut it. So, maybe CPJ is the only non-racist Div1A coach in the country and hopefully this kid turns into Toby Gerhart.

    Like I said, he Sr. year video was MUCH better, but he is still missing a gear compared to Perkins, who will hopefully be around for 4 years. I guess I've always had this complex about the BB position. I don't want it to turn into a slow rumbling white dude position. BORING! And it is going to disappoint the hell out of me if we are not able to recruit more Perkins and Allens. The reason CPJ ran the bigger, slower BBs at Navy was because that was all he could recruit there. I had hoped it would be different here. So far, mixed results, but I guess we won't really know for another few years.

    I disagree that the TO needs an east- west runner. This offense is designed to hit the point of attack quick and get into the secondary make a cut and go. Time will tell...but IMO these kids look similar. The one who executes the best will play. Thats why Preston is the the #1 coming out of spring. BTW I don't think all coaches are racist. Researching it appears that this kid only started hitting the combines and camps the summer before his senior year. He was at GT last summer and supposely ran a 4.52 at their camp. It looks like he did well in these and starting getting attention. Maybe this is the reason that he was "under the radar" since most recruits start the process 2 or 3 years in advance of their senior year. Good luck to the kid.

    ATCTECH

  • ATCTECH said...

    I disagree that the TO needs an east- west runner. This offense is designed to hit the point of attack quick and get into the secondary make a cut and go. Time will tell...but IMO these kids look similar. The one who executes the best will play. Thats why Preston is the the #1 coming out of spring. BTW I don't think all coaches are racist. Researching it appears that this kid only started hitting the combines and camps the summer before his senior year. He was at GT last summer and supposely ran a 4.52 at their camp. It looks like he did well in these and starting getting attention. Maybe this is the reason that he was "under the radar" since most recruits start the process 2 or 3 years in advance of their senior year. Good luck to the kid.

    Only disagreement: AB is a lot of EW running...all about turning that corner a lot of the time...but EW running is simply speed.

    Hopefully ZL pans out. Best of luck! I believe CPJ knows what he is doing, but it doesn't mean I can't scratch my head from time to time. Believe it or not, I am a GT fan, I just have this vision of what I want our offense to look like and even more so what I don't want it to look like. But....I am no expert, just want to be entertained.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by HelluvaMGTmjr on 6/28/2011 at 6:48 AM

    HelluvaMGTmjr

  • HelluvaMGTmjr said...

    Have you seen their schedule? How many ranked teams did they beat? (I don't know the answer to either).

    Dude, we managed to lose seven games with a schedule that included South Carolina State, Middle Tennessee, Kansas who lost nine games, Duke that lost nine games, Air Force, Virginia who lost 8 games, Wake who lost nine games, Miami who was 7-6 and fired their alum coach, and we lost to a 6-7 Georgia team that lost to UCF in their bowl game. I wouldn't throw stones.

    Yukonwreck

  • HelluvaMGTmjr said...

    Only disagreement: AB is a lot of EW running...all about turning that corner a lot of the time...but EW running is simply speed.

    Hopefully ZL pans out. Best of luck! I believe CPJ knows what he is doing, but it doesn't mean I can't scratch my head from time to time. Believe it or not, I am a GT fan, I just have this vision of what I want our offense to look like and even more so what I don't want it to look like. But....I am no expert, just want to be entertained.

    Misconception---if we are blocking efficiently, properly, and the qb gets the right read, the AB get a lane, doesn't need to "turn the corner" , doesn't need to be exceptionally fast altho it always helps. When it's right, the AB gets 9, 10, 12 yards before being touched. Sometimes farther.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u20B6DJwTNg

    Yukonwreck

  • Exactly, and yet we had more talent than Navy (at least I sure as hell hope so). I still wouldnt want to "look" like a team winning at a lower level. If Navy played in the ACC, their W-L would look a lot different, though they are good at beating Wake.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by HelluvaMGTmjr on 6/28/2011 at 9:10 AM

    HelluvaMGTmjr

  • Jonathan Rowe said...

    Just watched the highlight video. I know it's the cardinal rule not to just make a snap judgment off of a highlight video, but d%^&. This guy can flat out run. He's fast. He's not going to juke you out of your jockstrap, but he's got very good 1-cut running ability. He will make a guy miss. And, he just out-runs people. Not to mention good balance and strength. Reminds me of Dwyer, honestly. I think Dwyer was about his size too in high school, about 200-210 lbs.

    I'll tell you who else he reminds me of ... It's like having a 220lb Kelly Rhino at B-Back. And, that is PERFECT. Did you see him return punts? ... looked just like Rhino. Always made the first guy miss and then took off, afraid of nothing.

    Like I said, it's bad form for me to do this, but that highlight video got my blood pumping. Very excited about Laskey's potential.

    Great video.

    Laskey looks very fast compared to the other teams. What he looks best at is reading his blocks and going where the blocks are opening the running lanes. I see that either in the back field or when he's free down field. The neat thing is that when there is no hole, he just hits someone and takes them for a ride. gun

    I can't wait to see him at the next level. He seems to have the same breakaway speed and ability to hit the holes as JD. His block reading and desire to deliver a blow seems better. But that is at a lower level. Trust but verify, I'll get totoally liquored up once I see him do those things against UNC or VT. pray

    GaTech Navy Nuk

  • GaTech Navy Nuke said...

    Great video.

    Laskey looks very fast compared to the other teams. What he looks best at is reading his blocks and going where the blocks are opening the running lanes. I see that either in the back field or when he's free down field. The neat thing is that when there is no hole, he just hits someone and takes them for a ride. gun

    I can't wait to see him at the next level. He seems to have the same breakaway speed and ability to hit the holes as JD. His block reading and desire to deliver a blow seems better. But that is at a lower level. Trust but verify, I'll get totoally liquored up once I see him do those things against UNC or VT. pray

    agree....his vision looks to be excellent....that is something that can't be taught. It has to be instinctive. I think he has a tremendous career in front of him on the Flats....I'm excited! If he can do that against UNC or VT...I'll have a few with you!cheers

    ATCTECH

  • GaTech Navy Nuke said...

    He seems to have the same breakaway speed and ability to hit the holes as JD. His block reading and desire to deliver a blow seems better.

    Holy hell....I'm turning a new leaf on ZL, but let's not get crazy!

    HelluvaMGTmjr

  • HelluvaMGTmjr said...

    Holy hell....I'm turning a new leaf on ZL, but let's not get crazy!

    Helluva, gotta keep the whole bit ....
    ........... "But that is at a lower level. Trust but verify, I'll get totoally liquored up once I see him do those things against UNC or VT."

    I agree its crazy to say he will do it at D1 level, but at his level, Laskey seemed to run like JD to me.

    I'm going to wait a couple games into the season to try and figure out what type of team we have. Everyone is undefeated and has lots of great new talent. As BB was writing, we are going to have a lot of freshmen on the field this year, so it'll be interesting.

    GaTech Navy Nuk

  • We seem to have all these great players now---with so much potential and ability. Why aren't we better?

    Yukonwreck

  • I can't believe this topic has gotten so many replies. This guy may never make it past third string. The highest rated fullback we have on the team was a four star out of Florida and he may never start. Doesn't make sense how many replies are on this subject. I hope the kid does well..I'm just saying...

    Bowdon Rambler